Curse

Kurow · Mar 09, 2006, 07:31 AM // 07:31

What would you do to survive a zombie infested land? Discussion can be in any setting, urban, rural, forest, etc. Each setting brings new interesting scenarios, etc. In your equipment you must be reasonable and efficient, you couldnt carry around a rocket launcher so that wouldnt work, and you couldnt really cut a zombies head off wearing a full suit of plate armor either. For an extra challenge, what set of zombie survival equipment could you whip up from your home?

Here's what I'd want in the best case scenario:

Zombies are: Slow, stupid, like in resident evil games, immune to pain, only killable through heavy damage to head or decapitation, burning also, but that would take a while.

The scenario: Anywhere, but I think that venturing on some sort of plains would be the most interesting, as long as its not and urban or jungle scenario... blech.

The Equipment:
>Hefty aluminum bat, for beating zombie skulls and the like.
>Possibly a nice curved sword, maybe machette
>Some sort of all covering wear, that is tough and flexible, and some serious boots
>Combat knife, serated for extra cutting ability
>Backpack
>1 metal bowl & butane cooking device
>Possibly a bow (for nice open places)
>>armor piercing tips so its not difficult to remove from dead bodies
>A wind up radio
>A water container

That would have to be it, 1 pair of clothes of course. Cant travel too heavy. The bat would just be for plain old zombie head beating, cant go wrong. The sword I am shying away from because I am not sure how effective it would be. Severing human limbs is elusively difficult, and severing a head would be more so, just more cases the bat is easier and more effective. The knife wouldnt be for stabbing, as that does nothing against zombies, but for normal knife uses. The clothing would have to be either leather or denim probably, to resist the zombie bite attempts effectively. Under that I would probably wear fleacy clothes for warmth. I would choose a tough water proof thing if i had it available. The backpack is to carry things, you know, matches, the works. The bowl and heater go without saying, you gotta eat stuff. The bow is another thing that I probably wouldnt need or use very well, but the idea of shooting a zombie from the top of some hill in the plains is pretty cool :P. You would have to have the armor piercing tips so that they are easily removed. The radio would be to listen for any sign of civilization around, say a small town that had stayed alive, etc. I am convinced this would be enough, I dont go for guns because they are heavy, and after you exhaust your ammo, they are useless.

If I was to construct a survival kit from my current means... I would probably end up with:

Metal Bar from my desk as a blunt weapon,
Denim jacket & jeans, with fleece under jacket and fleece pants, +shirt and hiking boots.
Backpack... containg nothing listed above, well some cans of chili and ramen.
A wind up Flashlight.
A ceramic bowl.
A water container.

And thats it... damn I better get shopping if I expect to last more than a couple days...

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 08:02 AM // 08:02

your forgeting the home made flame thrower

you know lighter and afew spray cans axe works well

Kurow · Mar 09, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

But it would be impractical, as range would be too close to the zombie, and it would be exhausted too fast.

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 08:14 AM // 08:14

if you ask me it would work just as well as try to beat their head in with a bat

Kurow · Mar 09, 2006, 08:38 AM // 08:38

but a bat has infinite ammo ;D

and they cant grab you and light you on fire when you hit them with a bat.

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 10:40 AM // 10:40

i'd go with the machette it's made to chop things alot tougher than a human neck

and a neck is easyer to cut than a arm or a leg the bone is smaller and if you get the right spot you wont even touch the bone

ShadowStorm · Mar 09, 2006, 01:34 PM // 13:34

I'm thinking a medieval Mace or Morning Star would be more effective than an Aluminum Bat. Maces and Morning Stars were designed to crush skulls.

I pwnd U · Mar 09, 2006, 01:36 PM // 13:36

I like ummm maybe running away? Ya there we go, now i dont have to get close to them, i can run to my car and take off away from them. Alot safer then fighting them and less effort, running away FTW!

ShadowStorm · Mar 09, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

Running away? You must not have seen very many zombie movies. We all know how effective running away is...

fiery · Mar 09, 2006, 02:28 PM // 14:28

What about in Dawn of the Dead, FAST mofos. But hiralous in Sean of the Dead got to love the british english spoof films.

bongo-666 · Mar 09, 2006, 02:45 PM // 14:45

for what ill use from my house:

armor:
- my long leather jacket (cuz it looks so cool)
- just regular black jeans
- a bandshirt (cuz im a metalhead and gotto stay true to that)
- army boots
weapons:
- double headed axe from my wall
- swiss army knife (hey, it saved mc. guyver a lot of times)
- a rope (just watch boondock saints why)
- the chainsaw from my dad (thats gotto do lots o damage)

just to add:

- my motorcycle (for quick gettaway and fast suprises)
- our old dog ( so it can destract the zombies)
- my cellphone ( to call 911 'duh')

EchoSex · Mar 09, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

Every now and then, before I fall asleep, I think about this. My plan was rather simple. Zombies hate stairs. They're decaying and stupid - they can't use stairs all that well, and certiantly can't climb a rope. (I'm talking the original zombies - the Goerge Romero zombies).

I thought it'd be smart go lock the doors down on the first floor and move all the furniture to the stair well and just pile it up. Then, as soon as I find my way up stairs, push all the other furniture and junk I don't need down the stairs, effectivly and completely blocking the stair well. There'd be no way ANYBODY could get up - never mind rotting corpses. I have a skylight on the third floor that I can use to get on my roof and wait for a rescue (or pluck off zombies. Who knows. I WOULD be waitin' to use my firearms). As for food and stuff, I can just walk across the roof and down the skylights into other people's apartments and grab canned good and such.

Kurow · Mar 09, 2006, 05:31 PM // 17:31

You can find an aluminum bat without too much trouble, but a mace... that might be kinda hard. And a chainsaw? Those things are so heavy, and gasoline based, it would be too heavy for its own good. Gotta travel light so you can escape the urban areas. In my plan I would try to get out of town as soon as possible, and live life in the plains outside my college town. Maybe coming back for food every once in a while since I would be too crappy at hunting to catch any hares. If any zombies were wandering around the plains then it would be no suprise and I could waltz up and give them a good whap to the head with my bat. Now I dont know about you, but I think that would atleast knock them over, if not kill them.

Also, for the fast zombies.... we would be screwed. Chances of survival would be next to nothing. No point in planning on how you want to be chased down and eaten.

Mournblade · Mar 09, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

Don't forget a nice hatchet - no real skill required to chop their heads off after you knock them over with the bat.

So the zombies are slow and dumb. Are they like, really strong? Zombies would have plenty of time (they're VERY patient you know) to bash through minor obstacles like a furniture-filled stairway. If they aren't super strong, then I'd be making a beeline to the nearest concrete building for additional safety.

EchoSex · Mar 09, 2006, 08:14 PM // 20:14

I'm gonna blow a commmon misperception about zombies and guns out of the water. A Shotgun is NOT you best choice.

In games and movies, the shotgun ALWAYS gets the job done, blowing the zombie's head to shreads. Well, here's the fact, jack - unless you're lucky enough to have an ASUS 12 or AA-12 with drum magazines and rifled, discarding sabot slugs, you're not going to be blowing anything except for your self. See, buckshot, even 00 buck, is too small to do anything more than pierce though the target. The pellets' energy is produced on the target only when it first hits - the velocity is then too high, and the pellet moves through the target, leaving a pin hole. This is why the fast moving 9x19 is considered not a great round, as it does the same: It's too fast for it's size, and just goes right through. A .45 is heavy and SLOW, so it gets the job done. That's what I'm getting at with the slugs - they're heavy and SLOW, and HUGE, I might add.

But why use them in an ASUS 12 or AA-12? 'cause they're self loading, fully automatic combat shotguns that are magazine fed and are made to use drum magazines which hold 20 or more rounds. You don't want to be fumbling with a tubular magazine, now would you? (One round.... One round.... One round... SHIT! *BANG* One round...)

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 08:32 PM // 20:32

the bad thing about a autoloading shotgun is it jams far more than a pumpaction

but you are right the drum would save your butt when it comes to reloading

EchoSex · Mar 09, 2006, 08:35 PM // 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkdragon99

the bad thing about a autoloading shotgun is it jams far more than a pumpaction

but you are right the drum would save your butt when it comes to reloading

The tubular magazine ones do. The USAS 12 and AA-12 are famous for NOT jamming, even when held upside down. That's why I suggested those two specifically.

That and they look cooler than S--t.

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 08:38 PM // 20:38

i've fired one once and only once i broke my collor bone

EchoSex · Mar 09, 2006, 09:33 PM // 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkdragon99

i've fired one once and only once i broke my collor bone

o_O Odd. 12 gauge normally aint that bad. Must've been a 20 an you were holding it wrong. Thems hurt.

Okay, now - what is the BEST weapon to use against a zombie attack? I've been thinking for a while, and came up with this:

It has to have an ammo type that is common. Most common rounds in the USA are .22, 9x19, .45, .357, .40 and .44 for pistols, and .223, 7mm Rem, 7.62x51, .30-06 and 7.62x39 for rifles. Gauge caliburs most common are 16, 12 and 20.

The perfered type of ammo is probably small arms, because it's easier to use, can be used in a higher capcity and is more common. Out of the rounds listed, I think the .45 and .40 are gonna be the best bet.

Now, with the ammo type down, let's narrow it some more: the .40 is still new, so it's kinda less common than the age old .45. So now we got our ammo: .45.

Now, for a gun. The 1911 is great, but at 7 rounds, it's not gonna be much help. Heckler and Koach USP is nice, but not at all common. TOO expensive. SIG is excellent, but a SIG Pro isn't too cmmon, either. Beretta? In your dreams. So what gun can we possibly use that's common and gonna work?

Thing is, we can't. So I'm gonna curveball this: a .22.

The thing about a .22 is that it'll go in one end, but STAY in. This means it uses all it's energy on the target. So shoot them in the head, and it's gonna bounce around inside the skull until it's energy is used up. A gaurentied kill. A .22 is also extremely common, and Ruger MKI and MKII pistols are EVERYWHERE, and they also have a high capcity.

darkdragon99 · Mar 09, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

i know where to go to get 2 1911 among alot of other guns including a

FN P90 and a
Five seveN wich i have no idea how he got it

my grampa loves his guns